Question? Are the different Schambach lines in America closely related?
Answer! Yes, some of them are. Through DNA tests using the Y chromosome, we are now able to determine approximatly how long ago two Schambach men share a common male ancestor and narrow down the number of generations back to that ancestor. The results so far suggest that Adolph of 1729 and George of 1749 are not closely related, at least not through the direct male line. However, later Schambach arrivals have matched George of 1749 which is exciting and allowed us to connect certain families back to Germany.
We currently have twelve participants in five
groups shown below.
If you would like to participate in this project, more information can be
found at www.familytreedna.com
or you can contact me at
. Any other Shambaugh, Schambach, etc. is more
than welcome to participate. Some of the more recent family lines to
immigrate may be able to connect to either Adolph or George or to each
other. If they do, then we can direct our search in
Europe to particular areas.
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DYS#s (D=DNA, Y=Chromosome, S=Segment) |
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Kit |
Family Line |
3 9 3 |
3 9 0 |
1 9 |
3 9 1 |
3 8 5 a |
3 8 5 b |
4 2 6 |
3 8 8 |
4 3 9 |
3 8 9 - 1 |
3 9 2 |
3 8 9 - 2 |
4 5 8 |
4 5 9 a |
4 5 9 b |
4 5 5 |
4 5 4 |
4 4 7 |
4 3 7 |
4 4 8 |
4 4 9 |
4 6 4 a |
4 6 4 b |
4 6 4 c |
4 6 4 d |
4 6 0 |
G A T A H 4 |
Y C A I I a |
Y C A I I b |
4 5 6 |
6 0 7 |
5 7 6 |
5 7 0 |
C D Y a |
C D Y b |
4 4 2 |
4 3 8 |
5 3 1 |
5 7 8 |
3 9 5 S 1 a |
3 9 5 S 1 b |
5 9 0 |
5 3 7 |
6 4 1 |
4 7 2 |
4 0 6 S 1 |
5 1 1 |
4 2 5 |
4 1 3 a |
4 1 3 b |
5 5 7 |
5 9 4 |
4 3 6 |
4 9 0 |
5 3 4 |
4 5 0 |
4 4 4 |
4 8 1 |
5 2 0 |
4 4 6 |
6 1 7 |
5 6 8 |
4 8 7 |
5 7 2 |
6 4 0 |
4 9 2 |
5 6 5 |
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GROUP |
Haplogroup E1b1b1a1b |
These five participants are from the line of Adolph Schambach who immigrated in 1729. Four were known to descend from his son George. The fifth also descends from his son George but his ancestry was previously unknown. The DNA results helped narrow down the possiblities. Of the five participants, there is one marker (464c) on two individuals that is different by one number and a different marker (458) on another individual whose ancestry was previously unknown. A difference of one number on one marker is an acceptable mutation over 280 years. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 54613 | gr-gr-grandson of John_Shambaugh (1790), George_Shambach_Jr. (1755), Johann_Georg_Schambach (abt 1715), Adolph_Schambach (abt 1690) (Originially unknown ancestry but traced once DNA tests were returned.) |
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| 25712 | gr-gr-grandson of George_Shambaugh (abt 1779), Ludwig_Shambach (1756), Johann_Georg_Schambach (abt 1715), Adolph_Schambach (abt 1690) |
13 | 23 | 13 | 10 | 16 | 20 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 11 | 28 | 15 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 14 | 20 | 31 | 14 | 16 | 17 | 17 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 28896 | gr-gr-gr-gr-grandson of John_Philip_Shambaugh (1783), Philip_Shambach (abt 1750), Johann_Georg_Schambach (abt 1715), Adolph_Schambach (abt 1690) |
13 | 23 | 13 | 10 | 16 | 20 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 11 | 28 | 15 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 14 | 20 | 31 | 14 | 16 | 17 | 17 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 40903 | gr-gr-gr-grandson of John_Shambaugh (1790), George_Shambach,_Jr. (1755), Johann_Georg_Schambach (abt 1715), Adolph_Schambach (abt 1690) |
13 | 23 | 13 | 10 | 16 | 20 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 11 | 28 | 15 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 14 | 20 | 31 | 14 | 16 | 16 | 17 | 9 | 11 | 19 | 21 | 16 | 12 | 18 | 18 | 31 | 34 | 11 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 15 | 15 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 12 | 10 | 0 | 22 | 24 | 19 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 16 | 7 | 12 | 22 | 18 | 13 | 13 | 12 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 |
| 44742 | gr-gr-grandson of John_George_Shambaugh (1793), George_Shambach,_Jr. (1755), Johann_Georg_Schambach (abt 1715), Adolph_Schambach (abt 1690) |
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GROUP |
Haplogroup R1b1a2 |
Of the four participants, two are descendants of the two lines of George Schambach who immigrated in 1749. Their results match exactly, re-enforcing our prior research on George's sons. Another participant is a descendant of a Jakob Schambach whose children immigrated in the 1880s and 1890s. His results match the descendants of George on all but two markers (447) and (534) out of 67 markers. This says that they are closely related. Since we have more information on Jacob's ancestry in Germany, this led us to where to look for more information on the family of George. We think we have narrowed down the possibilities and found the missing link, so to speak. Results for a fourth participant whose name in America was originally Shambeck but later changed to Shamek also places him in this family. His results match the descendants of George on almost all markers. Additional research is needed to confirm the connection for this immigrant. |
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| 46046 | gr-grandson of Michael_Shambaugh (1828), Johann_Philip_Shambaugh (1798), George_Schambach_II (1755), Johann_Georg_Schambach (1716) |
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| 25711 | gr-grandson of Johannes_Ira_Shambaugh (1837), George_Shambach (1802), Johann_Philip_Schambach (1762), Johann_Georg_Schambach (1716) |
13 | 24 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 28 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 11 | 12 | 19 | 23 | 17 | 15 | 17 | 18 | 36 | 42 | 12 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 15 | 16 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 12 | 23 | 23 | 17 | 10 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 8 | 12 | 22 | 20 | 14 | 12 | 11 | 13 | 11 | 11 | 12 | 13 |
| 71478 | gr-grandson of Jakob_Schambach (1843), Tobias_Schambach (1801), Johann_Heinrich_Schambach (1759), Johannes_Schambach (abt 1720), Johann_Petrus_Schambach (1681), Johannes_Hermann_Schambach (1653), Johann_Schambach (1615), Jaeckel_Schambach (abt 1596) |
13 | 24 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 13 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 28 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 11 | 12 | 19 | 23 | 17 | 15 | 17 | 18 | 36 | 42 | 12 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 15 | 16 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 12 | 23 | 23 | 17 | 10 | 12 | 12 | 15 | 8 | 12 | 22 | 20 | 14 | 12 | 11 | 13 | 11 | 11 | 12 | 13 |
| 123934 | grandson of Edward Henry Shamek (1869), Franklin Shambeck (abt 1837) |
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GROUP |
Haplogroup R1b1a2 |
This participant was also believed to be a descendant of George Schambach who immigrated in 1749 but his ancestry was un-proven. The DNA test has shown however, that his direct mail line is not closely connected to this Schambach. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 211470 | thought to be gr-grandson of John_Shambaugh (1817), Johann_Philip_Shambaugh (1798), George_Schambach_II (1755), Johann_Georg_Schambach (1716) |
13 | 23 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 13 | 13 | 28 | 18 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 29 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 10 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 15 | 15 | 19 | 18 | 36 | 38 | 12 | 12 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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GROUP |
Haplogroup R1a1a |
This participant is a descendant of Frederick Schambach who immigrated in the 1860s. His DNA has shown that it is not closely connected to any of the other Schambach lines. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 212615 | gr-grandson of Henry_E._Schambach (1861), Frederick_Schambach (1834) |
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GROUP |
Haplogroup R1b1a2 |
This participant is that of a Shambo family with Canadian connections. Even though it may appear that it closely matches Group 2, there are at least 3 differences in the first 12 markers meaning that there is only a 17.4% chance that the common male ancester would be within the last 24 generations or at least 600 years. It's possible there is a closer connection but it's more likely the connection goes back 1000s of years. This person has however matched another person who has tested their DNA with the last name of Archambault, matching 36 of 37 markers. This is not that surprising as many of the Canadian Archambault families changed their name to Shambo once they moved to the United States. |
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| 89782 | Canadian Shambo descendant | 13 | 24 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 29 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 | 11 | 12 | 19 | 23 | 18 | 15 | 17 | 17 | 33 | 39 | 12 | 11 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Haplogroup E1b1b spread into Europe from the Mediterranean around 20000 years ago.
Haplogroup R1a is the most frequent haplogroup in Eastern Europe and Scandinavia and arrived around 10000 years ago.
Haplogroup R1b is the most frequent haplogroup in Western Europe and arrived around 25000 years ago.